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To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: mnk3@cornell.edu (MARLEN NATALI KOKAZ) Subject: Mail from WWW Just wanted to drop a line...\0 the work that you did was so impresd, i really appreciate that. I also had the change some of the information about Turkey, actually it is very true that it is a combination of different cultures and different religions, I am one of them, I am chatolic. Anyway I am planning to go to Turkey for the christmas break I thought may be there is some informaton or other things that you would like to know. If so please let me know, I don't know if you know Turkish or not but anyway, gorusmek uzere.

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:48:28 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: yildirim@evds.ucalgary.ca (Meric YILDIRIM) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Comments on the Tourism Guide of Turkey\0Robi, I am sending this message to you from Calgary, Canada. Just finished checking your web page on Turkiye and, being a native Istanbullie, I tought I owe you my thanks for your time and effort for putting together a great piece of work, and making a homesick Turk like myself smile. It is quite late now and there is no one in the lab to show this. But tomorrow, starting with my girlfriend, I'll drag a few people to the computer lab for sure. Thank you very much... Meric YILDIRIM, B.I.D. Graduate Student, Industrial Design University of Calgary, EVDS yildirim@evds.ucalgary.ca -- Received from: @pck.evds.ucalgary.ca(136.159.40.140)

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:13:03 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: billr@pacifier.com (Bill Ritchie) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Information requested\0 I am interested in doing a personal tour that would parallel the tour of Paul in the first century. I would start at ancient Antioch, then go to Tarsus, then through the Cilician gates to the sites of ancient Lystra and Derbe, then on to Iconium (Konya), Pisidian Antioch (if there are ruins there), then across to the west through the various sites ending in Ephesus. Then up to Philippi, Thessalonica, and Berea, and then down to Athens and Corinth. Any good ideas as to how the Turkey part of this could be facilitated? Tour groups always have their own agendas, which generally doesn't include much of what I want to see. Maybe there is nothing worth seeing in the sight of ancient Tarsus, for example, but that area has a very illustrious history. Thoughts? In addition, I am looking for information on Sardanapalus (Ashurbanipal) as it relates to his involvement with ancient Tarsus. Again, do you have any information, or means of attaining such? Thank you for your attention. I appreciate the ability even to talk with someone interested in the area. Cordially, Bill -- Received from: @ip83.van3.pacifier.com(199.2.117.83)

Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 07:48:01 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: kscherling@mail.jefferson.arl.k12.va.us (Kathy Scherling) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Comments on the Tourism Guide of Turkey\0 Just wanted to comment on the footage provided. Having visited Turkey 3 summers ago, I was thrilled to see what you have put together. Looking at it all, it was if I was back in all those wonderful places. -- Received from: @205.216.58.11(205.216.58.11)

From: enderk@nbn.com Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:50:48 -0800 Subject: Turkiye To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Dear Mr. Polikar I enjoyed your home page and comments on Turkey. As a Turk, I welcome the increased presence of material and information on the WEB on Turkey, especially when it is informed and truly informative. Thank you for presenting a positive image of Turkiye. Your insights on Turkish culture and history suggest that you are either a very enlightened American, or an ex-patriot of the region. If the former, I am interested how you became interested in the subject; in either case, I applaud you for educating America as to the true nature of the Turkish Republic, its people, history and customs. You are absolutely correct when you say that the Turks have done a dismal job of self-promotion: part of this is due to our traditional aversion to boasting, but it is also due to the ambivalence of the governing bureaucracy on the question of the Turkish identity! Unfortunately, this ambivalence leads to such hare-brained ideas as the "Suleiman the Great" campaign of recent years, whereas what is sorely needed is the trumpeting of the true genius of Ataturk and his creation, the Turkish Republic. I am pleased that you place considerable emphasis on this aspect of our history . Sincerely, Ender Mustafa Kaya enderk@nbn.com

To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: e073357@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr (Selim Aksoy) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Just wanted to drop a line... Congratulations!!! I don't know whether or not you know Turkish so I have decided to write in English.This site is just what we had needed to express ourselves to the rest of the world. Thank you for your effort. -- Received from: @pc09.eee.metu.edu.tr(144.122.167.202)

Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:44:50 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: ddecker@yhc.edu (Deborah S. Decker) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Just wanted to drop a line...\0 Robi Bey, Many thanks for your wonderful photographs. They make me so anxious to return to Turkiye. I have made two long visits to Turkiye, the most recent in April '95 to watch the bird migrations around the lakes west of Bursa. For the past six years, I have been engaged in independent study of all aspects of Turkish history and culture. I am currently trying to learn enough of the language so that I can at least be polite and express my deep admiration for the Turkish people. I will be returning to Turkiye in late 1996..hopefully to see Celaleddin Rumi's tomb in Konya and visit the cini at Kutahya. Please send me information about your family's hotel in Bodrum. I live two hours due north of Atlanta in the North Georgia mountains. Needless-to-say, I am the lone Turkophile here, but I'm working on everyone! Good luck with your studies and work. Tesekkur ederim. Deborah Decker ddecker@yhc.edu

Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:22:40 -0300 (ADT) From: EL MARIACHI To: rpolikar@iastate.edu i was just on your internet site, and have to say it was very interesting. even though i was only able to stay logged on for about 10minutes, ,you seemed to have alot of information here. next time i hope, to stay on a little longer. SARUHAN TOPRAK SAINT MARYS UNIVERSITY

To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Subject: homepage Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 23:58:33 CST From: Selcuk Arslan Hi Sir, Kutlarim yani. Goruyoruz ki sayin Robi Beyin homepage'i Tubitak'in Bilim ve Teknik Dergisinde cikiyor(Kasim 95). Aman da aman. Ne sevindim bilemen! Valla kiskandim simdi. Hic boyle bir huyum yoktur esas itibari ile... Keep up good job! p.s. If you have not received your Bilim ve Teknik yet, I have one. --- Selcuk Arslan sarslan@iastate.edu

From: jwilson@mail2.lmi.org Date: Fri, 08 Dec 95 13:45:35 EST To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Subject: Turkey Dear Robi, I was surfing the Net looking for information about Turkey, as I am planning a trip to Greece and Turkey in late March/April of 96 when I came across your Homepage. Thank you for all of the valuable information, which I am just beginning to process. I was also pleased to see that you are a student at Iowa State. I had the pleasure of visiting Ames in 1991 with my friend John Burroughs. His late father, Wise Burroughs was on the faculty (animal husbandry). I enjoyed my short stay in Ames. I live in Washington DC. Once again, I'll look forward to reading the material that you have provided. Jim Wilson

Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 15:56:44 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: big@beastie.smart.co.uk (paul and christine) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Just wanted to drop a line...\0 merhaba , my name is christine and my husband is called paul, we visited your page and wanted to tell you that its very good. you have put a lot of work in to it. we have visited turkey seven times in the past four years and will be back in 1996. hope you have the time to keep your sight updated and we will visit your page again. -- Received from: @beastie.smart.co.uk(194.193.3.2)

From: Deborah Decker To: "'rpolikar@iastate.edu'" Subject: Turkiye Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:22:13 -0500 Dear Robi, Sorry to be so long in communicating again with you. I am looking forward to receiving the brochure about your parent's apartment/hotel in Bodrum. You asked how I came about my intense interest in all things Turkish. About ten years ago a friend mentioned to me how incredible Istanbul was, and how I really should visit it since I have such an interest in ancient civilizations. So, I began to purchase whatever guidebooks I could locate, and I began to study. Five years later, I was finally able to get the time and the money to go...and it was love at first sight! I spent the month of February exploring Istanbul, the Aegean coastline sites, the Troad area, and Gallipoli. I was in Bodrum for three days. When I returned home, I was determined to locate more and better sources of information on Anatolian, Ottoman, and Republican Turkiye. I contacted Dr. Richard Chambers at University of Chicago, and thanks to him I have been able to find more academic and scholarly sources of information. There is very little in this part of the country devoted to Turkish studies...more Middle Eastern and Arab studies programs. So, I have had to travel to Washington for seminars, and seek out books from the Turkish Studies Program at Indiana University. Last week I flew to Washington to hear Tom Brosnahan (Loney Planet Guidebooks) speak at the Smithsonian Institute. He presented a slide presentation on Ottoman sites. My most recent trip was great because I made friends with someone who was able to introduce me to village people and show me off-the-tourist track places. Now I am really commited to letting others know about the history, culture, and wonderful people of Turkiye. I have two great hopes...one is to one day take a few selected friends to Turkiye with me. These would be people who have studied prior to the trip. The second hope is to buy a small, simple house or apartment somewhere in western or northern countryside of Turkiye. I hope that your studies are going well. Best wishes for the coming New Year. Happiness, good health, and success to you, your family, and friends. Deborah S. Dceker ddecker@yhc.edu

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:53:52 -0800 (PST) From: Murat Goldstayn To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Subject: tebrikler Robi bey, Homepage'in cok guzel. Saygilar, Murat Goldstayn

Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:13:58 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: jaein@iastate.edu (jaein) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Just wanted to drop a line...\0Hi! I think that your homepage is very beautiful. -- Received from: @du139-221.cc.iastate.edu(129.186.141.221)

Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:19:48 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: wcartier@ios.bc.ca (Ward Cartier) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Information requested\0 Dear Robi, An excellent Web page! Iam an electrical engineering graduate student studying towards my M.A.Sc. at the University of Victoria on Vancouver Island in the province of British Columbia in Canada. I am currently involved in a joint project with Italy (SACLANT NATO Lab), Turkey and Canada to develope, test and deploy an oceanographic instrument in the Bosphorus sea later this year. The deployment site will be close to Cubuklu and will betake measurements Roughly from Cubuklu across to Yenikoy. I am presenting a poster paper in Vancouver next week and am trying to locate a nice picture of this area. Preferably a view from one side, or the other looking across the Bosphorus to the other side. Would you have any ideas as to where I might be able to obtain one. Regards Ward.

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 07:33:10 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: aqualung@nemo.unh.edu (Ata Bilgili) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Comments on the Tourism Guide of Turkey\0Merhabalar; Page cok guzel. Ozellikle Turkiye sayfasini heryere submit et ki herkes faydalanabilsin. Iyi calismalar. Ata Bilgili UNH Ocean Engineering aqualung@nemo.unh.edu http://nemo.unh.edu/aqualung/ata1u.htm -- Received from: @nemo.unh.edu(132.177.150.151)

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 18:56:01 -0800 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: oz.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Hayrani Oz) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Comments on the Tourism Guide of Turkey\0Dear Robi: We (my family) have visited your web pages on Turkey. We were astounded by your effort in preparing these wonderful pages. The information you provide is also excellent, very unbaised, and fair. Thanks a million for the jaw-dropping pictures... Sincerely Hayrani Oz

Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:33:41 -0700 To: rpolikar@iastate.edu From: pepe@dlc.fi (Pertti Aaltonen) Subject: Mail from WWW Connected from: Just wanted to drop a line...\0 Hello Robi! Many thanks your great tour of Turkey. I will go to Alanya next week for holiday trip with my wife Larissa, and your pages was interesting and helpful. Best Regards Pertti Aaltonen Hakilatie 2 E 20 FI-01260 Vantaa FINLAND

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The following are the only mails that I have received that had negative comments regarding these pages. Actually, I felt like these comments were not necessarily against the pages, but against the Turkish people in general. I have replied to these friends from (yes, you guessed right) Greece, in a very respectful manner, but their replies turned into nothing but "hate-mails". I finally warned them against their "e-mail abuse" by telling them that I would let their institutions's computation center know about their acts that are against computation ethics. I told them that I would ask Iowa State's computation center to ask their computation center to suspend their account, should they continue to send hate e-mails. That must have been intimidating enough for them, since I have not received anything else from them. As a courtesy to them (which I am not really sure whether they deserve this), I will not include their names and/or e-mail address, hoping to avoid any unnecessary war of e-mails among other Greek and Turkish students around the world. However, if I receive any further hate mails from them, I will announce their names on this page. I sincerely hope that this unpleasant event will not occur ever again. I would like to note that I am open to all comments, as long as they are directly related to the pages I maintain, including the information given on these pages. The following mails are not modified in any sense, except replacing the names with stars.

From: ******** To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 11:48:48 GMT0BST Subject: Like it or not we are over you! Hello, I'm a user of internet and I'm currentlu studying at the University of Wales College of Swansea in the U.K. My name is ********* and I'm writing to you to make some comments on your "Turkey from Robi's camera" page which I read, as you can understand, in the Internet on the 15th of November. I'm sorry to say but I'm Greek. That means that I have some things to say about your page, you and your country. First of all, you should re-read the History of your region. 1) Asia Minor was always Greek (andbefore Jesus Christ was born) 2) Cyprus was also from the ancient times Greek (Hellenic) 3) Constantinople (modern-for you Istanbul) was MADE by the first Byzantine Christian Orthodox Emperor Constantine 4) Every ancient monument or remple that is in your territory was made by the ancient Greeks 5) Smyrna (for you Izmir) and Efessos (for you Efes) like Constantinople were built by Greeks 6) Eastern Thrace was always Greek 7) Imbros (for you Imroz) and Tenedos islands were also always Greek 8) Of course I shouldn't remind you of Alexander the Great (the great Macedonian, that means Greek) 9) Of course I shouldn't remind you of Armenian and Kurd territories that you posses 10) I MUST remind you of the turkish crimes in the past. (i.e. burned Constantinople and Smyrna and killed all the Greeks, burned the house of Atatourk in Salonika and then claimed that we did it.) 11) Continuing with your humiliation, half of the worlds vocabulary has Greek (Hellenic) routes or is at all Hellenic. 12) We invented Mathematics, Physics, Philosophy, Astronomy, Medicine, Democracy (all Hellenic words). 13) Again I shouldn't remind you that you come from Mongolia so you're Mongolians, that means you have nothing to do with the Balkans or Asia Minor or Cyprus. 14) Ending with my comments, I should tell you, that we believe to something we've seen (Christ, he did miracles and people as well as History proves it) and for the time we are the only nation (Hellas-Cyprus) that still remains genuine Christian (what remained from the first Christians, the Byzantines). We're Orthodoxes! Not Catholics, not Baptists, not Protestants, not Jews, not Jehoba's Witnesses. So give up. We own the place and get used to it. Cheers from Greece, ***************

From: *******Same person as above, replying to my answer to him To: Robi Polikar Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:49:49 GMT0BST Subject: Re: Like it or not we are over you! Excuse me Mr Polikar Mistakes: The Greeks that decided to live in Turkey, decided that because the y have bigger routes at the region than the Turks have. Of course, don't try to lie to me. The Greeks have many problemsin Turkey. Your government doesn't like us so that's why they burned us and our houses in Smyrna (nowadays Izmir), in Constantinople, in Imvros Isle (I think that you call it Imroz), in Tenedos Isle and in the turkish part of Cyprus! I have relatives from those parts of Asia Minor and Cyprus as well and they can prove to you easily that they wouldn't live in peace and the ones that still live there don't live in peace! And it's not only us. Kurds, Armenians, Georgians, Syrians and Cypriots have still the same problems (YOU TORTURE THEM AND KILL THEM). The Greeks will never be Turks because they fill Greeks and I know that from relatives. So get used also to this because your childish E-Mail, my friend, didn't work at all! Don't try to show me what a civilised and good boy you are and/or that you won't make an anti-hellenic propaganda if you'll asked to, by your government because you just started by saying that you have a history of 4000 years (YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED TO ME ABOUT IT). Again don't try to convince me that national matters (for which you talk about in you Home page), that means government matters, have nothing to do with you! When you go and vote, brainwashed Turko-jew-mongolian kid, you vote Tsiler or Ozal or I don't know whom because you want your country to be ruled by him/her so automaticaly your matters are being controled by the government. That is also how it works in almost the whole world. Again ask the Armenians that you say are now Turks or the Greeks or the KURDS that live in Turkey if they FILL Turks and then speak about it again. You are the only pathetic that you think yourself as a Turk but nevertheless you are Israeli (if you're a Jew). I explain again that the first civilised people to live in Asia Minor were the Ancient Greeks. Before them I agree with you were the Homo Sapiens and Neadertalis! GREAT NEWS: THE WAR IN BOSNIA HAS ENDED. Noone won but the Europeans lost (HA HA!!) because the Orthodoces Serbs didn't lose! AND FOR YOUR PEOPLE I tell you this! Last year Efes Pilsen (Basketball team) played in Constantinople with Panathinaikos (Greek team in Basketball, you know, Vrankovic, Dominique Wilkins, Petsarski, Volkov, Paspalij) and the stadium was full of Turks screeming against the Greeks and not Panathinaikos like animals, so then I realised that they were animals and very pathetics. How do you fill about this my friend! ANSWER ME BEFORE YOU GET ANOTHER ANSWER BY ANOTHER GREEK (HELLENAS)! THank you very much. Cheers from Wales! **************

Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:13:37 +0000 To: Robi Polikar From:********* A friend of the previous mail's owner Dear friend I just read your e-mail and i am trully happy that we can communicate USING DIALOGE, UNLIKE your country does, in all matters. It is not good (i beleive you are a student, STUDYING) to use the internet to make FALSE PROPAGANTHA. History never forgets. You know very well history, and you know that all of these things you say, are untrue and with false historic roots. I dont beleive that you have any Greek friens. If you do they are hipocrites, since it is worldwide known that our two countries hate each other. I am not a FANATIC as you may well beleive. I am a well educated person and truly peasfull. But a do not accept your home page since it is all dangerous propagantha. WHER DID YOU SEE YOUR 4000 YEAR HISTORY. Propably in your dreams. And where is your "turkish republic of northern CYPRUS". Ii does not exist. History clearly prooves, you like it or not, that your nation has made the worst human atrocities, and it still does (KURDS....) if the american nation was not there you would not exist. REALLY in which side your country was at both world wars. You know very well that you where on the wrong side. Still you have not been punished for that. I hope that as a sivilized turk you will open some books and learn about your true history (propably about the wars you have created and the pain you have given). I finnaly close my dialoge, dear friend using a prhase that a very well known european man of arts said : Where turkish people live there is no DEMOCRASY. Where do you see your human rights in your country. All the world is talking about these matters. Best wishes for the HOLY DAYS (but you are not Christian) from the U K With respect... ***********

Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:45:25 +0000 To: Robi Polikar From: **********Same as above Subject: Re: Dear friend... I forgot...where did you see the turkish hospitallity; or where do you see Greek people living in turkey; I must remind you that in 1953 your nation, with a barbaric way as it always handls situations, made the last Greek population of Konstantinople to go away... and this is prooven from your military (DEMOCRASY;) goverment. IS THAT HOSPITALLITY. The Greeks have NEVER acted this way in 4000 years of true history. What about that... This above prooves 1000% that all the things you beleive are HISTORICLY PROOVEN UNTRUE and DANGEROUS PROPAGANTHA FROM TOUR SIDE. It is better to abord your home page. Sicerely yours ************

X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.20) Message-id:************ From: ***********Owner of the first mail To: Robi Polikar Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:47:19 GMT0BST It' ******* again! Try an address in the Net: http://www.gsusa.org/~hellas/hellas.html to see how things are going in Greece with your minority causing trouble all the time. Be proude of your countrie and your gipsie patriots!!!! Tada!

========================================================== Message-id: *********** From: *********Owner of the first mail To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:43:18 GMT0BST You are going to die, TURK (that should be an insult)! ==========================================================

From: ********* To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 14:58:15 GMT0BST Subject: HELLAS Afraid of answering, Turk? ANSWER ME IF YOU DARE AND EXPECT MORE JUDGING NEXT WEEK FROM OTHERS, TOO! YOU ARE SO PATHETIC, Turk! *************

Message-id: ************* From: ************* To: rpolikar@iastate.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:23:39 GMT0BST Fascinating, Turk, but you still haven't answered me about the 4000 years of your "culture". Put my first E-mail-letter in your Home page if you like. I don't care if I'm going to be "judged" by uneducated Europeans and Americans. The only thing that I know is that HISTORY JUDGES YOU!!!!!

Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:28:08 -0500 (EST) From: ************A friend of the owner of the first mail To: Robi Polikar Cc: *********To owner of the first mail Subject: Re: Like it or not we are over you! On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Robi Polikar wrote: > Dear ************* > > I should, however, note that your mail is the first ever that I have > received which not only > criticizes it in a destructive manner, but it also criticizes the people > of Turkey, rather than the pages I have prepared ( I typically receive > at least 10 mails every week from all over the world which praise those > pages). Well, add mine to the list (of critisizm). Your page (even though amateurish to say the least), creates an image of turkey that differs MUCH from reality. Furthermore, you present Hellenic creations and property as something that belongs or is part of "turkey". Your countrymen are a mongoloid asiatic race that killed the original Hellenic population to aquire those arts/monuments. Although those monuments do belong to (a Hellenic) Asian Minor, they have nothing to do with turkey. > The subject line of your mail states " Like it or not we are over you!". > I do not quite understand what you exactly mean by that, or what is it that > you are over us. I personally think that no nation is "over" (whatever > that means) another nation in any matter. Take an English class. Being "over" someone does not imply "superiority". > Also you stated that you are sorry to say that you are Greek. Why are > you sorry? I do not see any reason why you should be sorry. What your I never read that part. Could you quote it for me? > Get over these childish behaviors. And why don't you try to answer the guy's questions/comments in a direct fashion? If he does have a gripe with turks, maybe you should be more understanding. Turks have murdered MILLIONS of Hellenes, Armenians, Kurds, Jews, Arabs, Alawis, Assyrians, and many others (and all those in THIS century alone). > Well, I have not written anything on those pages that says or implies > the opposite, i.e., the region was not originally founded by Greeks. I The region was never "founded", it was settled. And what you should know (or take the time to learn) is how MILLIONS of non-turks were exterminated (or "turkfied/islamized") from those areas. Do you know who the genisaries are? Do you know know the donmehs are? Christians and Jews forced (and kidnapped) to change religions and to become "proud" turks. > I do not, however, agree with item (4). There were people living in Asia > Minor long before ancient Greeks were living there. May be you should You are wrong. Asia Minor is a pretty big peninsula, so you need to be more specific with that statement. > I am really sorry for you my friend, but I think you have some serious > problems. It is non of my business to suggest you to see a psychologist, > but maybe that is really what you should do. Why the personal insults? > If I were a Christian, I would be offended by what you have written. > What you are really doing is some sort of "racism". Does that ring > any bells? That would be last thing I would expect from a noble Greek. Why is it racism to say that turks are a mongoloid race? Do you need for me to quote the numerous books that PROVE the lineage of turks? I'm sure that you are offended (since you see mongols as "inferior" - you are a racist just by your responce), because you are not a true turk. You are a Slav, Hellene, Armenian, or Jew that has been brainwashed and forced after generations to "become" a "turk". > One more thing: Turks are not Mongolians. It is true that Turks are > originally from central Asia, but they are not Mongolians. What is more > important than that is anyone who feels himself as a Turk is a Turk. You I see... more of that brainwashing coming through. This is a "line" the Ottomans used to convert islamized Balkan populations to "turks". This is why even some half million ignorant Hungarians (muslims) moved to turkey after the liberation of Hungary, because they thought that they were "turks". Nice dream. > do not have to be originally from the Turkish race to be a Turk. Turkey is > a land of people who love to be a part of a traditional hospitality. I suggest you find out about the Hellenes of 1955, or the Kurds of 1995! > Turks are not necessarily those who come from Asia. Your brain may not > be able to comprehend this, but everyone who is living in Turkey is a > Turk. Guess who are included in this group? Christians, Jews, and yes > even thousands of Greek who live in Turkey today. No one forces them to > live in Turkey; they have chosen to do so, and now they are Turks too. Haha.. talk to the millions of murdered "turks". You are living a dream, and it would be a great thing if you learned a few things about "your" country. > As a Jewish citizen of Turkey, I > am a good example of this. Like many Jews, Christians, Greeks and Kurds, > I am glad to be a part of this big family. Wait your turn. Just like the Christians, Hellenes and Kurds, you too will soon find out what a "true" turk is. If I need to tell you what the above mentioned groups have suffered from "your" people, then it is too late for you. > On behalf of the people of Turkey, I would like to send you our warmest > goodwill, hoping that you will get rid of this stupid ego. And I suggest you take the time and learn more about the turkish people and history. Pictures of occupied territories might look "nice", but that does not mean that the people there share that "niceness". > As Ataturk has once said: > Ataturk was a dictator, who forced his ideals of "culture" on millions of people. He also murdered millions of turks and non-turks. Why don't you quote a bigger humanitarian.. like say HITLER! ***********************

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